Weekend Roundup 13/03 & 14/03/10

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Broom Wagon
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Weekend Roundup 13/03 & 14/03/10

Post by Broom Wagon »

Saturday non stop training ride - turning up at the square there was the best turn out so far and whether it was the sunshine or that everyone had had their weetabix it seemed faster than ever - we averaged 20.2mph for the three hours. I was certainly working hard as my heart averaged 172BPM for the ride peaking at 185. Nice that the old ticker's doing it's best, if only it would result in a few more Watts.

I know it was my route so I'm bound to big it up, but it seemed the best of the ones I've done so far, the people who could climb showing us the way on the first half of the ride and the Chris Hoys putting their big power to use on the second half, might be worth riding it the other way around sometime.

Some very strong riding by Darren, who put in a couple of digs on the final run in, not quite enough to shake us off, but certainly enough to put anyone off from going on the front. I like it when the strong chaps do things like that because it forces me to an intensity I could never do on my own and helps develop that bloody mindedness necessary for road racing.

Impressive riding by those who turned up with mudguards and winter bikes.
Cyan Skymoos
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Post by Cyan Skymoos »

I certainly wasn't trying to shake anyone off, that road just isn't really suitable for smooth bit and bit so I just sat on the front and tried to keep it steady.
Today I was asked to knock 5 watts off which made me chuckle. I have been asked to knock a mile off or slow down before but I can honestly say I have never been asked to knock 5 watts off, I will have to try find out what 5 watts is.
I enjoyed it but the ride back to Sherburn into a block headwind wasn't as much fun.
I miss the old cafe rides!
PhilBixby
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Post by PhilBixby »

Went out to the wilds of the Humber with Muzzy to do the Barton Wheelers Australian Pursuit. This is 45km with the old blokes going off first, through to the youngsters (including Muzzy) with 10mins overall time gap. I was off in the C group three minutes before the youngsters. We shed a couple of riders within the first half lap and then settled down to pretty brisk group riding with eight of us sharing the work pretty much like it oughta be done. We stayed away from the younger fellas but although we picked up a lot of stragglers, we failed to pull back the rapidly-moving D group and the real old blokes who clearly, despite the passing of the years, have speed in their legs. Normalised Power 275W*** for 1:13:00-odd. No glory, no envelope with a fiver in it, but a good workout. Plus the sun shone and the temperature made it into double figures. Praise be!

***Sorry Darren, can't give you a conversion factor for a Broomwagon Watt, but presumably it'd loosely translate as "just enough to allow the bloke behind's eyes back into their sockets"....
Rob
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Post by Rob »

Skymoos, the "5W off" request was mine, and somewhat tongue in cheek (I have no Watt-meter) - and some calibration is required, because at least 10 were knocked off in response!

Anyway, I had not set off with the intention of riding with the Broomwagon group (had not crossed my mind I'm ashamed to say). No, I was heading for three solo hours in the Wolds on a beautiful early spring morning. Was day dreaming my way up Howsham Hill, when there was a shout from behind and an extremely large group, some in the feared red+black, came past (shedding assorted riders in their wake). Thought I'd tag along for a bit. Then the option of a bit of company seemed more attractive than solo Wolds.

Hence, my first "training ride" in a couple of years. It made a nice change (just like when a racing type comes on a proper clubrun). It was brisk enough, a bit ragidy at times (only to be expected at this time of year), and good to be using my second lung (the one I keep for emergencies). Thanks to BW for showing me a few new lanes.

The pace picked up after Holme-on-Spalding-Moor and we started going through-and-off. How did that happen? It was like telepathy went through the group. The elastic broke a couple of times and we got it back together. Then just N of Bubwith it went again - we looked behind to see that the 8 riders behind were at least together in a group, so the 6 of us pushed on. I was wilting a bit by the time we crossed the Derwent and, with Skymoos doing a Sean Yates masterclass on the Elvington pave, I sat up and watched.

Thanks for the company everyone - nice ride.
Tullio
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Post by Tullio »

Great Clifton turnout for Round 1 of the NYMBO Trailquest League today. A 4 hour event based in Terrington taking in the mudfest around Castle Howard and the lanes and tracks West of Sheriff Hutton. A fairly long course with some big road sections.

Steph F came out of retirement to show Lisa the ropes, and the rest of us why she was Queen of the Trialquests for 3 years. 2nd & 3rd female (300 pts). Allan, despite some mechanicals, pipped them by just 1 pt. Even Deb Goodall put in a big effort to get a new PB (275) accompanied by her new partner Paul Scott. Pete K, with son Brad, did the Generation Cat and came 2nd with 220. Not bad considering they were only out for 3 1/2 hours!

3 weeks ago I tore my calf and couldn't even stand up so I was doubtful that I'd even be back on a bike by now, let alone riding it. I set off with 'just take it steady' as my plan but on such a nice day it's, well, rude not to do your best. I was doing quite well until, checkpoint from last, I punctured. In my haste I removed said thorn, popped in my only spare to be presented by that horrible hissing sound as I re-inflated. Resorting to patches I faffed for what seemed like ages. By the time I was underway again I was already over my 4 hour limit so the sprint back to the finish became a damage limitation exercise as my competition was effectively over. Note to self - check you have all the thorns out of tyre when you only have 1 tube. Great day out though and well done for the bumper turnout.

Full results here
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DanJ
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Post by DanJ »

As one of the group of 8 I sat up after 50 miles and 3 of us rolled back to York at a steady pace. After years of pottering about on my own, the training rides have been something of a baptism of fire, they seem to get faster every week, but no pain no gain as they say. Need to work on the hills - going backwards at the moment (thanks to Skymoos - assume 'twas you- for the push...), but all in all a great morning out and an excellent route. I'm dipping out of the next 2 weekends as I'm doing a couple of duathlons - but I'll be back for more punishment in April....
JonnyMoore
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Post by JonnyMoore »

Like Dan these training rides are a baptism for me too and the phrase "no pain no gain" has never had so much resonance...well the "pain" bit anyway

Was just about hanging on until hit pot hole which puntured my front just coming into Bubwith sp training ride effevtively over for me at that point. Still very enjoyable and still getting used to riding in a group cheers again for help and tips.
tomf
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Re: Weekend Roundup 13/03 & 14/03/10

Post by tomf »

Broom Wagon wrote:I know it was my route so I'm bound to big it up, but it seemed the best of the ones I've done so far
Hi Broom - I looked at the route and thought "There's a man who knows where his Derwent is!". Shame I couldn't join you; I've been recovering from a mystery gastric ailment from last weekend and limited myself to a gentle ride down to Shiptonthorpe to collect a troublesome car (now fixed it seems...). But I thought I'd borrow the Harswell-Hayton road from your plan and it was very fine. I hope you enjoyed the rug-sized potholes on the A163 anyway. The weather was the best so far this year.
Hopefully back up to speed next weekend for the Seacroft RR (unless floods, fires or the police intervene...)

Edit: of course the Seacroft isn't next weekend, but it would still be useful to be up to speed for it...

tom
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Cyan Skymoos
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Post by Cyan Skymoos »

Just got back from the sunday ride, proper ride with a cafe stop. Battered myself into an headwind all the way home again.
Not one single rider from the saturday training ride was out, is there another group somewhere I don't know about?

I hope the guy who broke his wheel got a lift home ok.
IanH
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Post by IanH »

Yes I got home OK, thanks for asking, I had to wait about an hour for my wife to pick me up but was lucky enough to end my ride so close to the pub at Oswaldkirk where the landlord kindly let me ring home as I could not get a signal on my mobile.

It was hard to sit there in the beer garden with the sunshine on me while I forced a couple of beers down.

It was a bit scary comming down Oswaldkirk bank at 25+ when a large bang blew the side of my front rim apart caught on the front fork and ripped about an 18" section off, at least I kept upright, so when I buy a new front wheel it will go nicely with the new rear wheel I had to buy a couple of weeks ago when I trashed that one after hitting a pothole flooded with water.

Still I enjoyed the ride with six others led by Heather two of the group had turned back earlier.

On Saturday Dave Cook and I took part in a 24 mile 2up time trial at Beverley, it was the first time either of us have done a 2 up and it seemed to go really well as we had a couple of practice rides in the previous two weeks, taking a time of 1 hour 1 minute on the underlating course with a headwind for the first 10 miles both of us were pleased with our average time of 23+.

Ian H
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Post by Dr Dave »

Ian hagyard wrote:It was a bit scary comming down Oswaldkirk bank at 25+ when a large bang blew the side of my front rim apart caught on the front fork and ripped about an 18" section off, at least I kept upright, so when I buy a new front wheel it will go nicely with the new rear wheel I had to buy a couple of weeks ago when I trashed that one after hitting a pothole flooded with water.


Ian H
I wonder if it was latent damage from the flooded pothole incident that weakened the rim and caused it to go? It makes one worry as to whether any pothole jarring incident might lead to a later accident.

The intermediate group consisted of 7 riders and headed round Cockayne anti-clockwise with a cafe stop at Helmsley. Nice to be out on dry roads with reasonable temperatures. Andrew M suffered shoe failure relating to a previous crash and had to turn back nr Flaxton but everybody else had an uneventful trip. Headwinds made the climb from Gillamoor a bit tough.
WillK
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Post by WillK »

Thanks to Mr B Wagon for the Saturday ride - quality training, that was brisk! I thought (well, hoped!) that the pace may fade towards the end, but oh no, quite the contrary. Thanks also to Skymoos for the massive pulls into the wind on the home stretch, without which there would have been bother.
paulM
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Post by paulM »

Barton Wheelers LVRC road race with Phil B on Saturday. I now know age related pursuits are a flawed concept. The only qualification for being in the scratch group is being under 45 regardless of ability. So there we were - 8 laps of a 3.5 mile circuit and we were supposed to pull back 10 minutes on the first group. When we set off they were literally coming round the corner. 1 minute in front of us were 5 x 45-49 year olds but I knew they were a handy bunch but there were 10 of us. I didn't recognise any of the names or faces in our group (which is always a bad sign) except Giles Pidcock. I knew Giles would be strong on this circuit. Unfortunately straight away only Giles, myself and a couple of others were seeing the front. We never made any impression on the group ahead. With three and a half laps to go Giles jumped away and I let him get a good lead and jumped across. We really needed a couple more to come with us. We worked well together but Giles was a bit stronger and after a lap and a half all we'd succeeded in doing was getting half way to the group ahead who still looked like the had a minute on us. After 20+ years I've given up doing lost causes. I put that sort of effort in when its the winning break so I was back at the Hq and changed before the winner crossed the line. I'd gone back to the start to pick up a jersey when the lead group of 3 x 70 year olds came past in the lead - they still must have had 7 minutes on the scratch riders!

Plus points - put in some big turns and a huge effort to get across to Giles so I was good when it mattered and didn't have to clean my bike when I got home. Bad points - wanted more from it than the combination of pain and disappointment and didn't really want to do it for training - which is bad.
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