Clifton CC

Please could you advise the route just before Husthwaite. Would the group be at Easingwold pimple roundabout (Raskelf Rd X with Thirsk Rd/Long Street) at say 11h00 ish? May I join you for a while (new [old] boy, not yet fit?

Hi - best thing to do is to check with Kevin Scully (who runs that ride) exactly when he'll be where. 01904 709535

Cheers,

Arthur

Terry - Kevin has asked me to post this

"Terry: The "B" ride will head out from York via Beningbrough Hall,Aldwark, Flawith, Myton- Helperby-right to Fawdington-Sessay, straight over A-19, to Husthwaite, then head right & back over A-19, to the Pantry Tea-Rooms in RASKELF. (approx 33 miles).

If you wish to join us on the ride, you"d be more than welcome, & the best place to meet up with the Group, would be at the Village of Flawith,(which is approx 5 miles from Easingwold via Alne) at an approx time between 11-25- & 11-40 am.

Kevin. "

Just a note to say thank you to Kevin and the Group today, for making me welcome, and their strong support, especially. My apologies for causing them to lose time waiting on several occasions, as I am clealry trying to run before I can walk! See you next year, and many good wishes for Christmas to you all.

Just asking in here.

You think Kevin will be happy me going on his ride on saturday? I am asking cause am sure he dint sounds too pleased last time I was in the square and tried to go on his, ended up going on howards but this time I feel I need to go on a slower ride to just nudge my fitness up then I be back on the propor ones, I only being doing 30miles max in a day past 8 weeks. I miss the days I could do the sunday rides.

It's nothing personal Will. He discourages me as well It's very disruptive having a strong rider along on an easy ride. I'm sure you'll be welcome if you want to ride all day at a pace that will feel very slow to you, and resist the urge to shoot up the hills.

Arthur wrote:It's nothing personal Will. He discourages me as well It's very disruptive having a strong rider along on an easy ride. I'm sure you'll be welcome if you want to ride all day at a pace that will feel very slow to you, and resist the urge to shoot up the hills.

So basically on Kevin's rides he likes no one going faster than him, as he's the leader and is responsible for keeping the pace?

Just seems Kevin's are shorter and the gap between speed is quite big between his group and Howards, I might try Howards if I manage to fit these new shifters by Saturday but I do hope I'll cope, I don't want to go on Kevins if it means not being able to go up hills at me own pace.

I wasn't going to bother replying to this one but I think I should.

Will - as you are no longer really a novice rider, when you join a social ride like Kevins (as opposed to a training ride) you are expected to go along with group etiquette and that means you don't try and shred the group by constantly trying to drop your fellow riders, you take your turn on the front if you're strong enough and sit in the group the other times. There's no issue with you going for it up a hill - but regroup at the top and wait for the others.

Group social riding is just that - you ride for the group, you're not out there to just do your own thing. As you're a strong rider why not use that to help out if you're finding the pace a bit steady? Do plenty on the front and keep an eye out to make sure it's all staying together, if you're near the back and someone gets dropped, go back and help pace them back up, instead of commenting about 'proper' rides, offer encouragement to newcomers who aren't as fit or as experienced as you.

If you can't cope with that then you want the faster ride!

Well if kevins ride was too slow for me and I was on it I guess if I really did find it easy I could sit on the front plenty if I was allowed, as long as it is 2 abreast though, if it's one abreast and I'm at the front I have difficulty keeping pace and end up going a little too fast, I know if there are 2 novice riders on the front it ends up breaking up.

I think it would be good to be able to lead a ride one time, as I have a GPS like Howard I can input a route into it but I don't know I think it's abit too much responsibility for me that!

I did not mean Kevin's ride is not a proper ride, I was referring to it in a different way when I said proper, they are all proper, I meant sort of faster paced and longer etc...

A career in the diplomatic service awaits you Cath.

Further reading for Mr Hub: http://www.cliftoncc.org/static.php?con ... oup_riding

With respect Will, I do think that you are probably too fast for Kevin's group. I can't speak for anyone else but I think Kevin does a fantastic job introducing newcomers to group riding at a pace which enables them to graduate from relative beginner to competent group cyclist. Having faster riders along can really compromise his ability to do this. At your age/ability you should be aiming to be either with Howard's ride or perhaps the training group - as far as I understand it this 'ride' covers about 30-40 miles at a decent pace.

Often if your confidence is a bit low it is tempting to join a group whereby you feel that you are one of the stronger riders rather than get a bit of a kicking in a stronger group but if you want to improve as a rider it's what you have to do.( I think 'Chopper' would say something similar in a slightly different way )

On a more general point the recent trend for 3 'Social rides' on a Saturday works well IMO - assuming that numbers are high enough for this to be practical

There's no training ride until the New Year

I guess I've no choice I'll have to do Howards ride

Wont be doing anything if Royal Mail don't hurry up though

Thanks Rob I'll give that link a read.

**Edit**

I never knew that about half wheeling!, I'm sure I tend to do that alot and when I was doing it I actually where trying to do it as I actually though that is what you do for best slipstream or soemthing

Learn something new everyday!

willhub wrote:

Learn something new everyday!

If most of us knew half of what Rob has learned over the years we'd all be an awful lot better at this cycling business!