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Winter Bike

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:45 pm
by Pete S
Looking for some advice,

Is it worth getting a winter bike or should my only bike with stand the salt and grime of the winter months if cleaned after each ride.

Many Thanks

Pete

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:10 pm
by PhilBixby
Hi Pete

I'm cutting and pasting from an email to another club member who asked if I ride my Cervelo Soloist all year...

"Yes, I ride it all year. I take the view that when the weather's truly crap, you need something that feels nice to ride in order to get you out there and make it more bearable.

I had the previous Cervelo five years and rode it all year. The frame was pretty much in as good nick by the end of that as it was at the start. I had one set of headset bearings fall apart but I replaced them with stainless, and strip/grease/adjust them once or twice a year. Beyond that, no special treatment. As many will testify, I didn't even clean it that much as I reckon a good layer of the contents of Farmer Jones' cows helps protect the bike from road salt.

Of course all the components get a harder life, but what I've found is that the better stuff you put on it, the better the seals, bearings and finishes are. I've used DuraAce for years and it lasts and lasts. I thoroughly clean/grease derailleurs in spring and renew jockey wheels (Tacx ones are better/cheaper). Clean and lube chain after every wet/salty ride. The only thing that really suffers in winter is wheel rims. So, have summer wheels (with slick tyres) and winter wheels (with GP4 seasons or similar) and even then you can get new rims every couple of years. Bike doesn't feel quite as nice with cheap wheels and sturdy tyres but it's still not bad.

Only real disadvantage - though it doesn't bother me - is you can't easily fit mudguards to most race bikes. I can fit a RaceBlade on the back (wrap the seatstays in thick rings of PVC tape to stop the mountings wearing the paint) but not at the front as the weird downtube shape doesn't give enough clearance. But I probably won't even bother with the rear one this year - most of my riding's on my own and if I go out with a group it'll probably be on a sunny day!"

...just my personal view on it!

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:54 am
by Dr Dave
FWIW I take the opposite view. I have a cheapy winter bike with full guards on - keeps me cleaner and better for the person behind. Not sure I'd go out in horrible weather if I had to use my nice bike and I don't feel the pressure to properly clean my winter bike after each ride that I would if I rode my decent bike through the winter grit/salt etc.

It makes it more of a treat when you do get to ride your decent bike!

You pays your money and takes your choice....

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:28 pm
by Rob
We have this conversation a lot on here. Most of the pros and cons are well thumbed. But to add a few:

Notwithstanding Phils comments about top end kit being more resilient, any component will fail sooner if covered in crap.
It doesn't have to be raining for the roads to be wet. There are few dry roads between November and March.
Few of us have the luxary of being able to choose when we go out - there's a window of opportunity and we have to take it, whatever the conditions.
Race-blades keep the worst off of the rider, but offer little protection for your stead and next to none for your mates.
Look around on a typical clubrun. Most experienced and serious riders are properly kitted out for the conditions - I don't mean just a cheap disposable bike, but one designed for the occassion.
Have you ever stopped to think what's in that stuff flying off your wheels? I doubt much is water! Salt, excrement, pesticide residues, deisel, oil..... I remember arriving at a cafe once when a rider found some rabbit entrails spread across his helmet. :shock:

Things have changed though. When I started, and it wasn't *that* long ago, everyone had a club bike first and when they got to their first event they took the guards off and fitted lighter tyres. Then if they got keen they'd buy a posh racer - but even then with clearance as in three year's time it would become a winter bike.... Most new riders now do it the other way around. God, I sound old.

As Dave says, its your money.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:54 pm
by Dr Dave
Have you ever stopped to think what's in that stuff flying off your wheels? I doubt much is water! Salt, excrement, pesticide residues, deisel, oil..... I remember arriving at a cafe once when a rider found some rabbit entrails spread across his helmet.
I remember last winter after a Wednesday evening ride which went down 'pig-shit alley' my face was plastered in the stuff, and I must have swallowed a fair bit!!

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:28 pm
by Pete S
Thanks 2 all some good advice :D