I'd really recommend getting your position checked. I've been to Racescene in Barnsley who, for a fee of £75 will spend a lot of time measuring you up and providing you with an optimum position to meet your needs. I've had knee problems for many years now and the made quite radical changes to my bike which has really helped.
I've also been to the Highthorn clinic on James St which has an excellent sports physio called Paula. She was able to identify significant muscle imbalance and interestingly the problem wasn't with the knees but with the hips so she gave me exercises to strengthen my right side up.
I completely agree with Helen that you need to stop cycling until this is sorted otherwise you risk making matters worse.
My knees!
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Point taken, I know what you mean I pay a fortune to commute by train. Fares are scandalous considering the service.willhub wrote:10 quid a week yea, and no way am I paying that!Jon G wrote:Isn't there a bus service?willhub wrote:I cant compleatly stop cycling, I have to do 3 miles commute there and back to college.
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MichaelCarter
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Nope the doctors are all out of range, I just phones one and they don't take M4 postcode as I'm out of range, they are only 0.5miles away too :\
What a p*** take, going to be boring without my bicycle :\, I'd consider going home as I have a GP there.
I could go to A&E again but I've been once for something else and I don't think they would appreciate me going again for something that is not an accident or emergency.
What a p*** take, going to be boring without my bicycle :\, I'd consider going home as I have a GP there.
I could go to A&E again but I've been once for something else and I don't think they would appreciate me going again for something that is not an accident or emergency.
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BroomWagon
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I know everyone's saying go to the doctor but my experience with doctors and cycling is very unsatisfactory: "Doctor, my X hurts when I cycle."
"Well don't cycle then, good day."
Knee pain is usually down to one or all of the following: saddle too high or too low; shoes too small or too big, foot not aligned correctly after changing cleats.
Probably misaligned cleats then.
"Well don't cycle then, good day."
Knee pain is usually down to one or all of the following: saddle too high or too low; shoes too small or too big, foot not aligned correctly after changing cleats.
and the cleats should not be too, I replaced them not long ago.
Probably misaligned cleats then.
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BroomWagon
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I went and did 15 miles today fairly steady, my knee started hurting, I was always slow from traffic lights as well now as no pressure what so ever can be put on my right knee, cant seem to achieve anywhere near as much power with my left knee which sucks abit.
I don't want to stop cycling, sometimes a good 18 mile brightens the day up and I want to cycle home on 18th December so am abit gutted tbh as it don't seem I will be able to, don't want to get to the train as thats not much good or an achievement tbh.
It seems ok after a couple days but you know where you squat down but only use one leg so you are basically putting lots of pressure on the leg? well it's obvious something is wrong with my right knee as if I do it I hear a loud and feel a big click and if I just bend my legs when I am standing up it's like click click click click click if I feel my knee.
So it's even more confusing, feels ok until I even touch the bicycle and its clicking and kind of hurts if I put pressure on. I am going home friday night for the weekend.
Tonight was good too, using minimal force from my right leg I was doing a good 18-28mph in places so I'd be flying if I could use my right leg
Even worse is the uneven effort I am pushing seems to be messing my left leg, not my knee, just the muscles near it, like to the right and down at sort of an angle, as if I am pushing too hard even though it felt I was not...
So it seems this scenario I have:
I am screwed...
I'll have to take weeks off the bike and let it settle and hope it fixes itself, then if it has I'll be back on the back with reduced fitness AGAIN which took me like 1-2months to get back and that I am still suffering from slightly now.
I don't want to stop cycling, sometimes a good 18 mile brightens the day up and I want to cycle home on 18th December so am abit gutted tbh as it don't seem I will be able to, don't want to get to the train as thats not much good or an achievement tbh.
It seems ok after a couple days but you know where you squat down but only use one leg so you are basically putting lots of pressure on the leg? well it's obvious something is wrong with my right knee as if I do it I hear a loud and feel a big click and if I just bend my legs when I am standing up it's like click click click click click if I feel my knee.
So it's even more confusing, feels ok until I even touch the bicycle and its clicking and kind of hurts if I put pressure on. I am going home friday night for the weekend.
Tonight was good too, using minimal force from my right leg I was doing a good 18-28mph in places so I'd be flying if I could use my right leg
Even worse is the uneven effort I am pushing seems to be messing my left leg, not my knee, just the muscles near it, like to the right and down at sort of an angle, as if I am pushing too hard even though it felt I was not...
So it seems this scenario I have:
I am screwed...
I'll have to take weeks off the bike and let it settle and hope it fixes itself, then if it has I'll be back on the back with reduced fitness AGAIN which took me like 1-2months to get back and that I am still suffering from slightly now.
Will
You have to take professional advice a good sports Phisio and a visit to your doctors and an experienced assesment of your cycling position
It sounds a bit like you could have cartlidge trouble but Knees are very complicated joints, I found this out the hard way as a runner competing for just over 20 years, and for about a year I was putting up with a problem in my left Knee and because I could get by with putting ice on it after a run and also putting up with a limited amount of pain whilst running I carried on like this occasionally giving it a week or two of rest but it was always there when I resumed running again.
I had visited various Phisio's over the years with various injuries nearly always to my left leg and back, and it wasn't until quite late on in my running days that one of them measured my legs and feet etc and discovered that my left leg was quite a bit shorter than my right one which after many years of running which can be very harsh on your joints anyway it could have been that which was putting my left side under more pressure than my right.
Then suddenly I had Knee pain like I have never felt before as I was walking I would suddenly cry out in pain and nearly drop to the floor and honestly wondered if I would be able to walk in the future never mind run again.
I went to my doctor and insisted that he refers me to a specialist at the hospital and this he did but it would mean I would be put on a waiting list as I was in so much pain I paid to go private for at least the diagnosis of it
He then wrote to my doctor to say I needed an operation on it as he thought It could be a torn cartlidge and if it was trimmed to remove the torn section I should make a complete recovery, this had not shown up on the x ray and I needed a camera inserted into my knee for a better look.
So at the age of 50 I had the operation to reveal to my horror that my cartlidges in the left Knee had all but worn away and it was almost bone to bone in the Knee joint, however they had flushed the Knee joint out to remove any debris, which is quite a common operation I found out later.
I was back at work within a week and the leg was feeling better and better as the swelling went down, It was then that I had to make the desicion to stop running as I never wanted to feel pain like that again and if I continued to give the Knee joint a pounding the chance was that it would.
This is when I took up cycling and have never looked back, I can get an odd twinge from the Knee if I have done a lot of hillwork which reminds me to back off a little.
You Will are young and quite a strong cyclist and I know how once you are fit you don't want to lose that, but its better to get the problem sorted out now so you can look forward to many years of riding your bike, you may decide to take a gamble and carry on which may come off for you but if I had my chance again I would certainly seek advice at this early stage.
Good Luck.
You have to take professional advice a good sports Phisio and a visit to your doctors and an experienced assesment of your cycling position
It sounds a bit like you could have cartlidge trouble but Knees are very complicated joints, I found this out the hard way as a runner competing for just over 20 years, and for about a year I was putting up with a problem in my left Knee and because I could get by with putting ice on it after a run and also putting up with a limited amount of pain whilst running I carried on like this occasionally giving it a week or two of rest but it was always there when I resumed running again.
I had visited various Phisio's over the years with various injuries nearly always to my left leg and back, and it wasn't until quite late on in my running days that one of them measured my legs and feet etc and discovered that my left leg was quite a bit shorter than my right one which after many years of running which can be very harsh on your joints anyway it could have been that which was putting my left side under more pressure than my right.
Then suddenly I had Knee pain like I have never felt before as I was walking I would suddenly cry out in pain and nearly drop to the floor and honestly wondered if I would be able to walk in the future never mind run again.
I went to my doctor and insisted that he refers me to a specialist at the hospital and this he did but it would mean I would be put on a waiting list as I was in so much pain I paid to go private for at least the diagnosis of it
He then wrote to my doctor to say I needed an operation on it as he thought It could be a torn cartlidge and if it was trimmed to remove the torn section I should make a complete recovery, this had not shown up on the x ray and I needed a camera inserted into my knee for a better look.
So at the age of 50 I had the operation to reveal to my horror that my cartlidges in the left Knee had all but worn away and it was almost bone to bone in the Knee joint, however they had flushed the Knee joint out to remove any debris, which is quite a common operation I found out later.
I was back at work within a week and the leg was feeling better and better as the swelling went down, It was then that I had to make the desicion to stop running as I never wanted to feel pain like that again and if I continued to give the Knee joint a pounding the chance was that it would.
This is when I took up cycling and have never looked back, I can get an odd twinge from the Knee if I have done a lot of hillwork which reminds me to back off a little.
You Will are young and quite a strong cyclist and I know how once you are fit you don't want to lose that, but its better to get the problem sorted out now so you can look forward to many years of riding your bike, you may decide to take a gamble and carry on which may come off for you but if I had my chance again I would certainly seek advice at this early stage.
Good Luck.