Noted as such, Rob, and thanks for both. Just wanted to clarify that vets races weren't all doddery old blokes wobbling round. Knowing the age of many in the club (there are no secrets from the membership secretary, bwaaahahahahaha) there are lots of people I'd love to see out there. I know I've said I like training alone, but seeing the occasional familiar face in a race is nice...
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Go for it, Will - I've done the same. In a street-lit city in winter, midnight can be the best time to train, running or cycling. Wear your 'weirdo' badge with pride, I never thought "you're so normal!" was a compliment anyway.willhub wrote:Then I go out at 11PM-12am and sometimes out on the bike untill 1 in the morning as it is quieter and less windy then and they are like... will you weirdo, I mean whats that all about O-o, I nearly get ran over in the day so it seems the most logical choice to train at night.
I never thought "you're so normal!" was a compliment anyway.
Absolutely Tom. I always think when you go into work on a Monday and you get asked the usual question "whatcha do at the weekend" and you've had a good ride somewhere and all they've done is got plastered or managed the Eastenders omnibus or something......Its good when you can multi task and manage all 3 - actually thats a lie as I hate Eastenders! God I've started writinglike Will?
Anyway where was I? Tom back to your previous post. I had to think about it and I do mean ride harder races leading up a race you need to perform well in - I don't necessarily mean just to drop down to ride a chipper. If I had an Elite race I particularly wanted to do well in I'd do the same - I rode the Div Champs on the back of a couple of shorter but hard road races this year and got through it ok. Then again I did about 3 Elite races in succession around August last year. Got round all of them ok and then came to do our 2/3 cat event in September and was flying. I'm not saying it will always work and you have to take it easy in between but to build up to 1 event it does work.
However I also think riding different category events adds to the variety and anyway its hard at the moment to race regularly if you only stick to your own standard - at least in BC events.
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the TLI's its good training but nothing more. You mentioned on a previous post you'd seen me at a TLI this year - it was the Milby one you rode. You must have seen me at the start because I was off the back of the scratch group so fast I was probably home before the race finished! Too much is down to luck on the night regarding how well the groups work together and who is actually riding. I'm not keen on that circuit anyway - I got dropped the previous year aswell but then rode a couple more after that and made top 4 in both on the other circuits.
Tom - the Seacroft Whs event you mentioned is probably worth a punt - I'd be fairly confident it will be a bunch sprint. but no need to decide now which one you ride. Besides its always worth checking the calender first. Races appear and disappear?
Phil - I'm with Rob - we both simply want everyone to reach their potential & I think 5 years is nothing when it comes to reacing your potential even for someone half your age. It took me at least that long and I'm sure as you get older especially if you started from a relatively low level it will take longer?
I'm not necessarily saying go and start entering all the Elite races you can - I was really pitching that one to a wider audience - like I said its always been a regret of mine that I never got stuck in earlier.
You may well see me at some vets races next and there's usually room in the car. My only LVRC race last year was certainly hard enough.
You mention you think they are safer than low cat BC events but fail to mention the TLI's - surely the last 5 miles of one of those is the most dangerous place you're ever likely to be on a bike?
Absolutely Tom. I always think when you go into work on a Monday and you get asked the usual question "whatcha do at the weekend" and you've had a good ride somewhere and all they've done is got plastered or managed the Eastenders omnibus or something......Its good when you can multi task and manage all 3 - actually thats a lie as I hate Eastenders! God I've started writinglike Will?
Anyway where was I? Tom back to your previous post. I had to think about it and I do mean ride harder races leading up a race you need to perform well in - I don't necessarily mean just to drop down to ride a chipper. If I had an Elite race I particularly wanted to do well in I'd do the same - I rode the Div Champs on the back of a couple of shorter but hard road races this year and got through it ok. Then again I did about 3 Elite races in succession around August last year. Got round all of them ok and then came to do our 2/3 cat event in September and was flying. I'm not saying it will always work and you have to take it easy in between but to build up to 1 event it does work.
However I also think riding different category events adds to the variety and anyway its hard at the moment to race regularly if you only stick to your own standard - at least in BC events.
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the TLI's its good training but nothing more. You mentioned on a previous post you'd seen me at a TLI this year - it was the Milby one you rode. You must have seen me at the start because I was off the back of the scratch group so fast I was probably home before the race finished! Too much is down to luck on the night regarding how well the groups work together and who is actually riding. I'm not keen on that circuit anyway - I got dropped the previous year aswell but then rode a couple more after that and made top 4 in both on the other circuits.
Tom - the Seacroft Whs event you mentioned is probably worth a punt - I'd be fairly confident it will be a bunch sprint. but no need to decide now which one you ride. Besides its always worth checking the calender first. Races appear and disappear?
Phil - I'm with Rob - we both simply want everyone to reach their potential & I think 5 years is nothing when it comes to reacing your potential even for someone half your age. It took me at least that long and I'm sure as you get older especially if you started from a relatively low level it will take longer?
I'm not necessarily saying go and start entering all the Elite races you can - I was really pitching that one to a wider audience - like I said its always been a regret of mine that I never got stuck in earlier.
You may well see me at some vets races next and there's usually room in the car. My only LVRC race last year was certainly hard enough.
You mention you think they are safer than low cat BC events but fail to mention the TLI's - surely the last 5 miles of one of those is the most dangerous place you're ever likely to be on a bike?
Hey my writing aint that bad!!paulM wrote:I never thought "you're so normal!" was a compliment anyway.
Absolutely Tom. I always think when you go into work on a Monday and you get asked the usual question "whatcha do at the weekend" and you've had a good ride somewhere and all they've done is got plastered or managed the Eastenders omnibus or something......Its good when you can multi task and manage all 3 - actually thats a lie as I hate Eastenders! God I've started writinglike Will?
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I'd just like to say... I feel very privileged to have started the two threads on this forum that are the largest threads ever on this forum....
Serialsly though this is a good thread I think it has some good advice in I think I should read through it, it's more of a training advice thread now, hell I think the title should be changed and an Admin add something into my first post to make that noticeable
"You mention you think they are safer than low cat BC events but fail to mention the TLI's - surely the last 5 miles of one of those is the most dangerous place you're ever likely to be on a bike?"
Oddly, I've never found the finishes of the TLI's that scary. With the exception of one crash a couple of years back (which we won't dwell on!) they've just about all finished without mishap - which certainly hasn't been the case in all the 3rds/4ths races over the same period. The Wakefield Wednesday evening races would be my own personal "guaranteed terror" events!
Oddly, I've never found the finishes of the TLI's that scary. With the exception of one crash a couple of years back (which we won't dwell on!) they've just about all finished without mishap - which certainly hasn't been the case in all the 3rds/4ths races over the same period. The Wakefield Wednesday evening races would be my own personal "guaranteed terror" events!
Will, you are clearly the Prince of Posts, and the Threadweaver Extraordinary!Forum King wrote:I'd just like to say... I feel very privileged to have started the two threads on this forum that are the largest threads ever on this forum....
What you need to do is ask Arthur to modify the personal details pages to include the average and maximum length of topics you started, rather than just the number of posts per day...
hehe don't think the forum software supports thattomf wrote:Will, you are clearly the Prince of Posts, and the Threadweaver Extraordinary!Forum King wrote:I'd just like to say... I feel very privileged to have started the two threads on this forum that are the largest threads ever on this forum....
What you need to do is ask Arthur to modify the personal details pages to include the average and maximum length of topics you started, rather than just the number of posts per day...
Just like to ask something.
Does cycling wake you up? I've just had 12 hours sleep (overslept?) and I cant wake up properly, need something to kickstart me, just has a cup of coffee with 2 heaped table spoons of coffee in and it's not worked!
I'm with Cath on this one, after many years' tireless research and being shacked up with a delicatessen owner. Lavazza red, three heaped spoons per person in the cafetiere, and you'll be in a state of heightened awareness in an instant. The transformation here at approx 7:41 every morning is almost miraculous. Expensive habit though, so put it on your christmas list.
