Sounds like a right load of rubbish guys. Do you not read the update - even Kevin wants to keep the numbers down and that is my point. I've no doubt everyone is riding respectfully in the group but its a big group leaving York. Just spread yourself about a bit. Kevin is too nice for his own good and will even plan routes for everyone so that he can split the ride before leaving the square. But he shouldn't have to do that and shouldnt have to feel responsible for everyone who turns up - there are plenty of you who know the roads well enough to plan a ride of your own. Take the pressure off Kevin a bit and let him concentrate on the riders who should be on the K ride. Lets face it there are about 300 or so members in this club - we can't all do the same thing at the same time!
Anyway what's up with Sundays. I expect Rob will be keeping things sensible for a few weeks. We were back by 2 o'clock last week, a 70 mile no nonsense ride & good company!
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If kev's extra numbers are a few experienced racers who know how to handle their bikes and change a tube, then I don't think he's got more than usual to worry about, but Kevin is my hero and if he doesn't think the racing lads should be going out with them then I respect that, and I'll do my pottering on my own when I start riding again.
I've recommended the K ride to the racers because in my opinion the inters or watered down versions of the training rides are harder than a racer wants to be going in October/November, and I apologise to Kev if he's been inundated with guys on cervelos with power meters or pinarellos with carbon wheels..and yes the clubruns are great, I'll be out on them again over winter.
I've recommended the K ride to the racers because in my opinion the inters or watered down versions of the training rides are harder than a racer wants to be going in October/November, and I apologise to Kev if he's been inundated with guys on cervelos with power meters or pinarellos with carbon wheels..and yes the clubruns are great, I'll be out on them again over winter.
It would be a real shame if anyone felt unwelcome on a ride after reading the comments on this thread. There are two "issues", but they are as old as cycling, and easily resolvable.
1. Big groups trying to get out of York (particularly in Saturday traffic). It's that first half hour that's the biggest problem (heaviest traffic). So if there are too many riders - just split it in the square. There's plenty of experienced riders in the club - offer to lead a group.
2. The strong rider riding with weaker riders. We are always going to have a range of abilities - its how we deal with it that is the issue. It is a cycling truism that the strongest riders are also the least likely to be aware of the pain and discomfort they are causing behind them. It takes a lot of clubrun experience to judge the pace appropriately. If riders are riding too hard they need to be told! Politely, at least the first time! And it's my experience that they always accept this feedback with good grace. Its also a cycling truism that the rider suffering the most is also the least likely to ask for "a few watts to be knocked off". So it is all our responsibilities to keep an eye on those around us in the group and sing out if the pace is too hot.
This is all standard stuff - see you on a clubrun soon
1. Big groups trying to get out of York (particularly in Saturday traffic). It's that first half hour that's the biggest problem (heaviest traffic). So if there are too many riders - just split it in the square. There's plenty of experienced riders in the club - offer to lead a group.
2. The strong rider riding with weaker riders. We are always going to have a range of abilities - its how we deal with it that is the issue. It is a cycling truism that the strongest riders are also the least likely to be aware of the pain and discomfort they are causing behind them. It takes a lot of clubrun experience to judge the pace appropriately. If riders are riding too hard they need to be told! Politely, at least the first time! And it's my experience that they always accept this feedback with good grace. Its also a cycling truism that the rider suffering the most is also the least likely to ask for "a few watts to be knocked off". So it is all our responsibilities to keep an eye on those around us in the group and sing out if the pace is too hot.
This is all standard stuff - see you on a clubrun soon
I definitely fall into the trap,of been one of the people who are least likely to ask to knock the pace down but then moan about it been too fast 
it's a pride thing I think. However there are plenty of riders who shepherd groups well, they know who they are, have ridden regularly with most of them and thank them enough times for waiting etc. it doesn't put me off going though. I just enjoy covering distances that I wouldn't necessarily do on my own but is much easier with a group. 
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it's a pride thing I think. However there are plenty of riders who shepherd groups well, they know who they are, have ridden regularly with most of them and thank them enough times for waiting etc. it doesn't put me off going though. I just enjoy covering distances that I wouldn't necessarily do on my own but is much easier with a group. .