Weekend Roundup 23rd/24th May

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barberj
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Weekend Roundup 23rd/24th May

Post by barberj »

We (me and my wife Rachel) have just finished about 200 miles of riding. On Wednesday we left from York on the 7:37 train from York and travelled via Newcastle and Carlisle to our eventual destination of Whitehaven to start the C2C. I must say that the train staff were excellent! They helped us with our bike and baggage on the train at York and phoned ahead so someone would help us off at Newcastle. When they changed the platform of the train to Carlisle one of the station staff came over and told us. The only problem we had was you could only book the bikes on the train as far as Newcastle. After that it was first come first served. Luckily for us when we changed trains as Carlisle we were the first of six cyclists trying to get on the train and two ended up having to wait an hour for the next train.
At Whitehaven we had a lovely 30 mile ride in the afternoon over to Keswick. This was the first touring ride so I didn’t know what to expect. Though I was a bit concerned that we were only managing about 8 to 9mph. This was brought about by the 16kg of luggage I was carrying (as my wife was on her race bike) plus gates and unsurfaced paths slowing us down.
As the 30 miles of the first day had proven quite hard I was not looking forward to the 70miles I had set us the task of doing the next day.
The climb out of Keswick is beautiful along an old trainline and the bike café in Greystoke has a wonderful view of castle. Unfortunately we didn’t get to stay to long looking at the view as we had all the Pennine hills to get over.
The climb up Hardside was easier than I expected. The gradient does not get too steep so you can really get a rhythm going. Also the descent to Leadgate is magnificent. Unfortunately for my legs the stretch from Garrigill to past Allenheads feels like you are on a rollercoaster. Just go up 200m to then go straight down and climb back up again and repeat. We finally made it to Parkhead station after 8 hours of cycling time. The advantage of Parkhead being that is all downhill (or level) for the last 35 miles to the coast.
The final day there is a lovely cycle down to Sunderland (with the exception of some of Sunderland and most of Consett) where we caught a train to Yarm, before cycling over to Great Broughton for another overnight stop.
We then cycled via Carlton in Cleveland (steep hill :!: ), Chop Gate, Helmsley, Nunnington, Hovingham, Stearsby, Farlington etc home.
A very enjoyable first go at cycle touring. We also had no rain. It rained on us in trains or to the left or right of us but never on us. This really made the Pennines much easier than it could have been. In hindsight we should have done the C2C over three rather than two days. But hopefully I will remember for next time. Rachel says she will take more interest in the planning to ensure I don’t get too excited and add mileage again.
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Post by Jason »

My Richmond Sportive experience taught me some lessons from the School of Hard Knocks (with a bit of input from the Department of Bad Luck).

Lesson 1 - "Do You Really Need All That?". Somehow I'd totally misjudged / miscalculated how much food I'd need and hence left the start with pockets bulging and my jersey stretching down to my seatpost. Uncomfortable and bloomin' annoying, especially when out of the saddle. Lesson learned? Trust the food stations, and be a bit more realistic about how much you'll need!

Lesson 2 - "You're Not as Fit as You Thought You Are!". I hooked up with the Daves and Ian at the start and slipped off the back of them after about 10 minutes! Damn and blast - and I thought I'd trained hard this year... Lesson learned? Nope, I'm not as fit as I thought I was (or at least I'd hoped I was).

Additional Module in Hard Luck. On the climb on Tan Hill (which I quite enjoyed), one of my back spokes snapped, leaving the wheel with a big buckle (only 23 spokes remaining). The wheel would only turn with the quick-release open, leaving me with just one brake for the descents, and with the worry that the remaining 23 spokes might start letting go too. So, at Keld I decided to quit and do the 50 mile route. Perhaps I could have got round on the buckled rear wheel without breaking any more spokes and with just the front brake, but I didn't really fancy it. Lesson learned? Think about investing in some more robust wheels for this sort of event.

Overall, I was really disappointed at not having done the long route. I'd planned on using this ride as a marker for my form ahead of the Maratona in six weeks, but hey, there's the Grimpeur next week!!

Jason.
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Post by IanH »

Did the Richmond 5 Dales on Saturday, met up with Willy, Doctor Dave, Dave Cook, and Jason at the start, we set off in fine sunshine but it soon came over quite cloudy with and quite breezy, I thought we set off a bit too quickly and looking at the Garmin stats the old HR was a bit high for the first half hour and by the time we got to the really hard climbs it had come down to a lower level, Doctor Dave was showing us how to get up the climbs and Dave C was certainly showing us how to descend, I met up with DC again at Hawes followed him up Fleet moss and that was the last I saw of him.

Funny thing about the ride is that no matter which direction we headed we always seemed to have the wind in our faces coming up the valleys to meet us, luckily we had the tailwind in the last 12 miles from Leyburn were I got my head down and pushed it hard all the way to the finish.

Met up again with DC and DD and we all managed to get the Silver standard for our times, DD knocked well over an hour off last years time, with DC getting in 10 minutes before me in a very creditable 6 hours 18 Mins.

Also saw Willy at the end who opted for the 80 mile course who went on to tell us that he was not getting much training in since he retired as he is always busy.

Sorry to hear of your tough luck Jason, have a good ride next week.

Was there any other clifton riders there ?

Garmin Stats below.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/6055325

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Post by Dr Dave »

Yes, a great day out again at the Richmond event. The weather was kinder this year - ostensibly - but as Iain said the wind semed to be against for most of the way round. Luckily it was behind up Park Rash and on the run in to Richmond.

As Ian has said we set out at a decent pace and Dave C, Ian and myself stuck together reasonably until the descent to Nateby where Dave just flew down as if the Hounds of Hell were pursuing him. Ian wasn't far behind (48.6 mph down there according to his Garmin!) and my nerve on the now-wet roads just wasn't up to keeping up with them. Eventually I closed up on Ian on the climb to Mallerstang some 10 miles or so further along the route but Dave was gone!

We arrived at Hawes just as Dave was leaving so Ian tagged along whilst I elected to spend a few minutes regathering myself before Fleet Moss. Consequently that was the last I saw of them. Fleet Moss is always a stiff climb but once over the turn towards Kettlewell and home was a morale booster.

Last year I ignominiously had to walk up sections of Park Rash into a howling gale! This year a gentle breeze propelled me up and a slow but steady pace and I even managed to pass a few riders on the way up. By now the effects of too much energy drink was having the usual gastro-intestinal effects on me and so I burped and hic-coughed my way down to Leyburn where a quick few minute stop re-energised my legs and I sped back to Richmond in 'time-trial' mode, overtaking plenty of others and not being passed once!

At the finish I caught up with Ian and Dave to share tales - Dave's time of 6:18 being hugely impressive (Gold standard next year beckons!). As Ian says I beat last year's time by over an hour so I must be getting somewhere. I seem to be able to keep up on the hills so my descending clearly needs some work!

Thanks to all for the company!

EDIT: Sorry to hear about your spoke Jason - sheer bad luck.
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Post by willhub »

On Sunday I went out on an intro ride with Manchester Wheelers, there was only about 7 of us, everyone else was out on the intro chaingang that was about 60 miles. Went up to knutsford and over the M6, could tell it was the M6 due to the miles of traffic jams, we got to this place just after this park called Tatton Park and me and this other guy decided to split off, so went back to his to eat some mars bars and draw up a hilly route, by time we got back it was 68 miles, we then set off into the peak district, we ended up doing another 60 miles. Was very tired towards the end, got a headache, must have been the heat, so we went through macclesfield looking for food, found a subway but did not fancy going in there in cycling kit, so we kept on going.

We got to this place called Alderly Edge and was thinking of doing swiss hill, but I was feeling ill and sick by that point so I wanted to get home as quick as possible, so we set off back into Manchester at quite a pace, the other guy with me knew his way and let me go off, he wanted to take it steady, all I wanted to do was get home I felt like I had a bad hang over, so the last 11 miles was flying back around 25mph, I was just counting down the miles.

All in all, was an awesome epic ride of 128 miles, I'm surprised I managed it, I was not expecting that distance so was not in the correct mindstate for that kind of distance.

On Friday or Saturday going to do a hilly up towards Sheffield and climb this slope called Winnats Pass.

On the top of the peak district as we headed into this place called the Goyt Valley we had a stop and a mars bar, this stoner guy pulled up in his VW and was annoyed that some guy tried to run him off the road so he got his car dirty (his fault), he said it's ok I'm not going to nick your bike! just want to have a look.

He was not amused that my front wheel did not have a dust cap on, he said I'll have all the air leaking out. Then he told me water is no good, fill the bottles up with glucose, pure glucose!?!?!???

So was a good and funny day, same distance next week for me. Amazed at how I have not lost fitness, I'm hardly cycling at the moment, between Sunday and Friday/Saturday I'll probably do a 45miler and that is about it, yet I'm turning out faster by doing less!
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Re: Weekend Roundup 23rd/24th May

Post by Rob »

barberj wrote:16kg of luggage
Blimey Jeff, what were you carrying, a marquee?

Can report a classic Sunday clubrun. More bikes than cars on the road at times - never seen anything quite like it outside an "event". Great weather, good company, perfect bacon sandwich 8)
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Post by dave c »

Ian and Dr Dave have described the Richmond 5 Dales above. I enjoyed the event, well organised, good food, and well arrowed.

The 1st half was pretty tough with head wind and some rain, then after turnind back east and north east we were flying. On the descent after Park Rash I met up with Martin, who sometimes comes out on Saturday rides, I tried to keep up but eventually near Leyburn he disappeared up the road.

I too, have succumbed to the Garmin bug!

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/6032190


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Post by barberj »

All I was carrying was:

Two lots of the following:
2 changes of cycling clothing
Overtrousers
1 lot of normal clothing
warm coats
Overshoes
2 pairs of gloves each
neck warmers
books
sandles
jumpers

One lot of the following:

Quite a bit of snack food, my waterproof coat, maps, the C2C book, keys, a full set of cycling tools including a wrench and spare innertubes, toiletries, camera, phones and a good heavy lock, a light lock and two 10mm steel cables.

Admitedly I might have knocked it down a bit in hindsight. I did feel a little like Mrs Armitage of Quentin Blake fame:wink:

Rachel carried her waterproof coat, the pump and the money.
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Post by BroomWagon »

Sunday club run for me. I knew Rob and Muzzy were going to be there. Though I'm told there are better Clifton riders than Rob and Paul, after being a member of Clifton for a fair few years, I've yet to cycle with them and to be honest have not the slightest wish to, there is only so much humiliation one can take. Still, I thought a complete battering will make next week's Grimpeur seem a breeze.

Turning up to the square, there was only Rob, Paul, John and Cambridge Bloke there so I knew with this few there'd be nowhere to hide out of the wind and Cambridge bloke turned off with mechanicals just outside York, so we were down to four. I needn't have worried though, Rob was in sociable club run mode and although Paul refused to go slow enough at any stage to warrant dropping out of his big ring no matter how steep the road, he also was in club run mood, so it turned out a very good day, even though John and I had to put up the white flag on occasion. A day of marvelous weather and stunning scenery, a cracking day out.
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Post by Rob »

barberj wrote:I did feel a little like Mrs Armitage of Quentin Blake fame:wink:
http://www.quentinblake.com/tp/images/M ... achers.jpg

Striking resemblance
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Post by CambridgeBloke »

BroomWagon wrote:Sunday club run for me. I knew Rob and Muzzy were going to be there. Though I'm told there are better Clifton riders than Rob and Paul, after being a member of Clifton for a fair few years, I've yet to cycle with them and to be honest have not the slightest wish to, there is only so much humiliation one can take. Still, I thought a complete battering will make next week's Grimpeur seem a breeze.

Turning up to the square, there was only Rob, Paul, John and Cambridge Bloke there so I knew with this few there'd be nowhere to hide out of the wind and Cambridge bloke turned off with mechanicals just outside York, so we were down to four. I needn't have worried though, Rob was in sociable club run mode and although Paul refused to go slow enough at any stage to warrant dropping out of his big ring no matter how steep the road, he also was in club run mood, so it turned out a very good day, even though John and I had to put up the white flag on occasion. A day of marvelous weather and stunning scenery, a cracking day out.

Yes It was a nice day, I still don't know what was wrong with my gears as i put my old ones back on and it is fine. At least I took my tt bike out for a couple of hours so i still got 3hrs in. Glad to hear you guys had fun :D
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Post by Dr Dave »

dave c wrote:Ian and Dr Dave have described the Richmond 5 Dales above. I enjoyed the event, well organised, good food, and well arrowed.

The 1st half was pretty tough with head wind and some rain, then after turnind back east and north east we were flying. On the descent after Park Rash I met up with Martin, who sometimes comes out on Saturday rides, I tried to keep up but eventually near Leyburn he disappeared up the road.

I too, have succumbed to the Garmin bug!

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/6032190


Dave
Dave, I've just noticed that the summary gives your maximum speed at 50.7 whilst the graph shows 50.9. Either way it just goes to show how fast you flew down there - makes my 41.7 mph seems rather wimpy and sad :(

Also a point about the Garmin - Dave C's log show a total height gain of 9622 feet whereas Ian's - for the same ride - shows 9212. Not sure what the true figure is but the difference is striking.......
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